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<title>Activision, Not Sony (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I very much doubt that you know that, or that it is true.</p>
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But it is true, at least from what I have been told. Sony wanted Bungie to unveil Destiny at the PlayStation event. Pretty badly from the sound of it. So the deal that was struck included the reveal and the exclusivity for the money. This idea that there was bidding with Microsoft is just fiction at this point.</p>
<p>As I mentioned before Harold made the deal. There were a lot of people at Bungie surprised by it, and also not nessesarily approving creatively. Harold probably would have had to consult with Activision but I can't speak to that.</p>
</blockquote><p>Well, I have to admit I have no special sources or references to make.</p>
<p>I honestly can't explain how or why Sony would have such a particular desire to propose this for Destiny in particular, nor why Bungie would make such a deal without at least giving MS a similar option. Unless the point of Sony's deal wasn't to secure exclusive content for itself, but to deny even separate but equal exclusive content to its competitor.</p>
<p>Even so I don't think Sony really expects to get people to switch just based on that. Maybe between generations-- I had the option to go PS4 at the start of this generation, but decided not to. Destiny being on the platform meant it was possible-- if it had been an Xbox exclusive there'd have been no question. If there had been cross-play between the platforms, I really might have gone PS4.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>narcogen</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I very much doubt that you know that, or that it is true.</p>
</blockquote><p>But it is true, at least from what I have been told. Sony wanted Bungie to unveil Destiny at the PlayStation event. Pretty badly from the sound of it. So the deal that was struck included the reveal and the exclusivity for the money. This idea that there was bidding with Microsoft is just fiction at this point.</p>
<p>As I mentioned before Harold made the deal. There were a lot of people at Bungie surprised by it, and also not nessesarily approving creatively. Harold probably would have had to consult with Activision but I can't speak to that.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2017 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Activision, Not Sony (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know that it's Sony, Activision <em>and</em> Bungie's doing. However, I also know that Activision/Bungie didn't propose this deal, it was Sony.</p>
</blockquote><p>I very much doubt that you know that, or that it is true.</p>
<p>It is very likely that Activision *did* propose this deal, and that either Sony accepted it, or outbid MS. It's possible that MS balked at paying extra for access they used to get without a negotiation when they owned Bungie, and it's also possible that their minority stake in Bungie entitles them to get their beak wet on the deal anyway, at least insofar as anything that Sony does that increases sales of Destiny, regardless of what platform it is on, makes their shares in Bungie worth more.</p>
<p> I also know that Activision/Bungie still agreed to it. I also know that It's always greener on the other side and that if Microsoft was doing this it might feel differently.</p>
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But the fact of the matter is, Sony is making these sort of things happen to sway XBox owners to get a PS4 and I'm saying that it's not working at all, in fact it's making it worse.</p>
</blockquote><blockquote><p>If you think that this is meant to do something else, I'm all ears. But as a potential customer, this is what I'm getting from it, and what I see about this situation is all that should really matter to Sony. I'm a customer. I would rather be seen as a gamer, or even a consumer to them. In this case, I don't feel that way.</p>
</blockquote><p>No, not at all. That is what exclusives are for. These deals are designed to keep Sony owners on the platform, not to bring in new customers. It's possible that people will either switch to, or add a Sony platform to get access to games like Last of Us, Nier: Automata and Bloodborne. Not to get access to cross-platform titles early. If anything, it just means that people who own both consoles will be more likely to play cross-platform titles on the platform with the extra perks, and Sony almost certainly gets something on the sale of each game and possibly each DLC sale and in-game sale, as well as driving usage of PlayStation Plus.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2017 13:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>narcogen</dc:creator>
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<title>And when it is announced? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E-rect.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2017 01:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Prediction (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Jumped off to watch some basketball or I'd join you</p>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><p>Bungie will miss the perfect opportunity to activate the basketball court in the King's Fall raid for March Madness.</p>
</blockquote><p>That just made me sad</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>unoudid</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jumped off to watch some basketball or I'd join you</p>
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Bungie will miss the perfect opportunity to activate the basketball court in the King's Fall raid for March Madness.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also, anyone want to spill some blood in crucible right now.</p>
</blockquote><p>Jumped off to watch some basketball or I'd join you</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>unoudid</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im feeling ganged up on by group intimidation. You don't have the right to oppress my feelings.</p>
<p>Also, anyone want to spill some blood in crucible right now.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 06:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ManKitten</dc:creator>
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<title>lol (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 05:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>CyberKN</dc:creator>
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<title>So, exactly like Destiny 1? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Hopefully the PS exclusives are so good that I can justify buying it on both systems.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 05:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ProbablyLast</dc:creator>
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<title>Sticking With Xbox (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, I never know what they will do in each game. So, by default, I don't trust them.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 04:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And square is one of the really squiggly ones that simply didn't load with your current codex.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>Sticking With Xbox (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since 94, I never trusted(and still don't trust) a console or a company with buttons that don't have letters or numbers, but <em>shapes</em>.</p>
</blockquote><p><img src="http://i.imgur.com/ws2pEDD.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 04:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<title>Triggered (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Technically, international characters are symbols, which also are &quot;letters&quot; applying to that language. <br />
Shapes are just...shapes.</p>
</blockquote><p>Technically, three fourths of the &quot;Shapes&quot; on Playstation controllers are Greek letters. Triangle is Delta, X is Chi, and O is Omicron. So there's that...</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 04:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, international characters are symbols, which also are &quot;letters&quot; applying to that language. <br />
Shapes are just...shapes.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 03:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Morpheus</dc:creator>
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<title>PS4  gets early beta access is only turning me away (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Damnit, just make a superior console and I will buy it.</p>
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Except you didn't. It was known long before launch that PS4 would be the superior console at a technical level (unless you bought into Microsoft's blast processing and 300,000 cloud servers).<br />
It was known before the consoles launched that Destiny would have more content on PS4.<br />
Even now, look at Xbox's exclusives. The biggest AAA exclusive they have this year has a 79 on Metacritic (with nothing notable on the horizon), while pretty much every big PS4 exclusive released so far is a critical success.<br />
And that's without even mentioning the Pro.</p>
</blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Don't use the games I love to sway my vote.</p>
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So none of the exclusives sway your vote? It's all what Destiny has (clearly it wasn't before Destiny launched, since you went with Xbox).</p>
</blockquote><p>To be fair, he said he was considering the PS4. Hell, I bought one recently. Frankly, I feel like the gulf of technical superiority pales in comparison to the online ecosystem gulf between the consoles, which is why I still prefer Xbox. But still, he says he was considering this console (because it's a good console with good content, which speaks for itself). </p>
<p>Even though I now have a PS4, I might still refuse to play Destiny on it going forward on the principle that I dislike this tactic as a console selling device. I may have bought one, but not due to these shitty tactics, and I'd prefer to not reward those shitty tactics by also buying into that ecosystems version of the game.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>EffortlessFury</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Typical American. Everything has to be in English eh? Can't think about the international audience eh?  Next you're going to say that the WHITE 360 was the best one. Get woke bro, it's 2017.</p>
<p>(runs to safe space)</p>
</blockquote><p>Joking about the concept of &quot;triggered&quot; and &quot;save spaces&quot; is really macho.</p>
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<title>Y&#039;all joke, but it really was the inspiration for the symbol (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least that's what the standard for it <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_symbol">said it was</a></p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical American. Everything has to be in English eh? Can't think about the international audience eh?  Next you're going to say that the WHITE 360 was the best one. Get woke bro, it's 2017.</p>
<p>(runs to safe space)</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ManKitten</dc:creator>
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