Indeed, you got to see it happen to our group (video above) the first time. I had no idea what hit me... and we proceeded to let the new guys who hadn't experienced that section of the raid to follow the spark and kick off the next event step -- which triggered the giant piston. I attended at least 3 or 4 subsequent events. And it never got old, and to all appearances, everyone was happy they got to experience it "blind". :D

I'm pretty sure we pranked Vortech by not warning him about that :-p

Telling someone to “follow the light” always struck me as a particularly funny and evil way to lead them into that trap :)

Can't wait to do Scourge Of The Past, and honestly all this raid talk makes me want to redo ALL the Y1 raids... Just gotta find the time... to sleep, and then... the time to play.

I think Cruel Legacy is the guy to ask for advice here :-p

Dude did flawless raider with a baby.

He two manned flawless with a baby!? damn! How did they even communicate!?

You may not realize the irony of your comment. Dude did flawless with a full team but because he did have a (sleeping) baby he did not communicate.

Except for one time.

None of us knew what he sounded like. During the jumping puzzle we hear "Guardian down", and we start flipping out. Who died? What? Come on! Turns out he spoke it into the mic in his best Dinklebot impression.

Greatest raiding prank ever. Epic.

... that wasn’t me. It was Korny.

Nobody recognized his voice, so everyone assumed it was me. I enjoyed getting the credit for making everyone laugh, and I’m sure Korny found it extra funny that nobody could tell that it was him, so he didn’t correct anyone :)

Can't wait to do Scourge Of The Past, and honestly all this raid talk makes me want to redo ALL the Y1 raids... Just gotta find the time... to sleep, and then... the time to play.

I think Cruel Legacy is the guy to ask for advice here :-p

Dude did flawless raider with a baby.

He two manned flawless with a baby!? damn! How did they even communicate!?

You may not realize the irony of your comment. Dude did flawless with a full team but because he did have a (sleeping) baby he did not communicate.

Except for one time.

None of us knew what he sounded like. During the jumping puzzle we hear "Guardian down", and we start flipping out. Who died? What? Come on! Turns out he spoke it into the mic in his best Dinklebot impression.

Greatest raiding prank ever. Epic.

... that wasn’t me. It was Korny.

Nobody recognized his voice, so everyone assumed it was me. I enjoyed getting the credit for making everyone laugh, and I’m sure Korny found it extra funny that nobody could tell that it was him, so he didn’t correct anyone :)

Can't wait to do Scourge Of The Past, and honestly all this raid talk makes me want to redo ALL the Y1 raids... Just gotta find the time... to sleep, and then... the time to play.

I think Cruel Legacy is the guy to ask for advice here :-p

Dude did flawless raider with a baby.

He two manned flawless with a baby!? damn! How did they even communicate!?

You may not realize the irony of your comment. Dude did flawless with a full team but because he did have a (sleeping) baby he did not communicate.

Except for one time.

None of us knew what he sounded like. During the jumping puzzle we hear "Guardian down", and we start flipping out. Who died? What? Come on! Turns out he spoke it into the mic in his best Dinklebot impression.

Greatest raiding prank ever. Epic.

I love that feeling as well, but Destiny has never constantly given it to me. It’s so overtly “gamey”, from the health bars and numbers flying off enemies as you shoot them, monster closets that spawn enemies, teammates that disappear and reappear between loading zones, “darkness” zones... Destiny just isn’t a game that manages to make me feel like I’m in a “real” place, on a “real” mission very often. This extends to raids as well, where the various mechanics feel more like arbitrary and artificial challenges than having an actual battle against a powerful foe. I don’t mean any of this as a criticism... it’s all loads of fun. But immersion is so rarely part of the equation for me. That said, there are rare moments that go farther towards making me feel like I’m with my fireteam in a real time and place, and they’re some of my favourite experiences in Destiny. Shattered Throne, Whisper, Zero Hour, a few of the strikes, parts of some of the older raids... its a great feeling when Destiny does start to close the gap between the game itself and my suspension of disbelief :)

I feel like most of the raids on the Leviathan have felt immersive because it actually feels like your in Calus' House were he is testing you in some weird space gladiator arena. So all the switches and weird rules makes sense. It actually made it even more twisted because you know he built this to test people.

Between the curse loop of the Dreaming City/Last Wish and the "tests" of the Leviathan, Bungie has gotten a better handle on the ludonarrative of Destiny.

Agree with both of you here. They've definitely found interesting ways to close those gaps a bit in D2.

Can't wait to do Scourge Of The Past, and honestly all this raid talk makes me want to redo ALL the Y1 raids... Just gotta find the time... to sleep, and then... the time to play.

I think Cruel Legacy is the guy to ask for advice here :-p

Dude did flawless raider with a baby.

I'd give Korny a little more credit than that ;p

He two manned flawless with a baby!? damn! How did they even communicate!?

You may not realize the irony of your comment. Dude did flawless with a full team but because he did have a (sleeping) baby he did not communicate.

The timeless art of Dance is communication enough for me :)

Can't wait to do Scourge Of The Past, and honestly all this raid talk makes me want to redo ALL the Y1 raids... Just gotta find the time... to sleep, and then... the time to play.

I think Cruel Legacy is the guy to ask for advice here :-p

Dude did flawless raider with a baby.

He two manned flawless with a baby!? damn! How did they even communicate!?

You may not realize the irony of your comment. Dude did flawless with a full team but because he did have a (sleeping) baby he did not communicate.

Indeed, you got to see it happen to our group (video above) the first time. I had no idea what hit me... and we proceeded to let the new guys who hadn't experienced that section of the raid to follow the spark and kick off the next event step -- which triggered the giant piston. I attended at least 3 or 4 subsequent events. And it never got old, and to all appearances, everyone was happy they got to experience it "blind". :D

I'm pretty sure we pranked Vortech by not warning him about that :-p

I mean I don’t see it as different than anything else in videogames. If you’ve never play a video game before, you don’t “know” touching a goomba in Mario will kill you. You do it, and you see what happens. You don’t “know” that you can break bricks if you’re big. You just discover that. You don’t “know” hidden blocks exist. You find them.

The rules of every game only reveal themselves one you get in there and start playing. It’s always been a part of learning how to win.

I've never put together this way, but I like feeling like I'm immersed in a fictional world. Blind raiding just means you're on the elite squad of guardians willing to scope out the unknown. It's cool, man.

I love that feeling as well, but Destiny has never constantly given it to me. It’s so overtly “gamey”, from the health bars and numbers flying off enemies as you shoot them, monster closets that spawn enemies, teammates that disappear and reappear between loading zones, “darkness” zones... Destiny just isn’t a game that manages to make me feel like I’m in a “real” place, on a “real” mission very often. This extends to raids as well, where the various mechanics feel more like arbitrary and artificial challenges than having an actual battle against a powerful foe. I don’t mean any of this as a criticism... it’s all loads of fun. But immersion is so rarely part of the equation for me. That said, there are rare moments that go farther towards making me feel like I’m with my fireteam in a real time and place, and they’re some of my favourite experiences in Destiny. Shattered Throne, Whisper, Zero Hour, a few of the strikes, parts of some of the older raids... its a great feeling when Destiny does start to close the gap between the game itself and my suspension of disbelief :)

I feel like most of the raids on the Leviathan have felt immersive because it actually feels like your in Calus' House were he is testing you in some weird space gladiator arena. So all the switches and weird rules makes sense. It actually made it even more twisted because you know he built this to test people.

Between the curse loop of the Dreaming City/Last Wish and the "tests" of the Leviathan, Bungie has gotten a better handle on the ludonarrative of Destiny.

and you get great moments like this:

https://clips.twitch.tv/ThirstyTenderNostrilChefFrank

Haha yeah, I guess there's a weird partial state of blindness where you're getting trolled by your sherpas because that definitely happened to me.

Definitely. I don't think this clip represents that, though. I think everyone was blind.

Yeah, too many people got taken out at the same time for that not to be a blind team.

I mean I don’t see it as different than anything else in videogames. If you’ve never play a video game before, you don’t “know” touching a goomba in Mario will kill you. You do it, and you see what happens. You don’t “know” that you can break bricks if you’re big. You just discover that. You don’t “know” hidden blocks exist. You find them.

The rules of every game only reveal themselves one you get in there and start playing. It’s always been a part of learning how to win.

I've never put together this way, but I like feeling like I'm immersed in a fictional world. Blind raiding just means you're on the elite squad of guardians willing to scope out the unknown. It's cool, man.

I love that feeling as well, but Destiny has never constantly given it to me. It’s so overtly “gamey”, from the health bars and numbers flying off enemies as you shoot them, monster closets that spawn enemies, teammates that disappear and reappear between loading zones, “darkness” zones... Destiny just isn’t a game that manages to make me feel like I’m in a “real” place, on a “real” mission very often. This extends to raids as well, where the various mechanics feel more like arbitrary and artificial challenges than having an actual battle against a powerful foe. I don’t mean any of this as a criticism... it’s all loads of fun. But immersion is so rarely part of the equation for me. That said, there are rare moments that go farther towards making me feel like I’m with my fireteam in a real time and place, and they’re some of my favourite experiences in Destiny. Shattered Throne, Whisper, Zero Hour, a few of the strikes, parts of some of the older raids... its a great feeling when Destiny does start to close the gap between the game itself and my suspension of disbelief :)

I feel like most of the raids on the Leviathan have felt immersive because it actually feels like your in Calus' House were he is testing you in some weird space gladiator arena. So all the switches and weird rules makes sense. It actually made it even more twisted because you know he built this to test people.

Can't wait to do Scourge Of The Past, and honestly all this raid talk makes me want to redo ALL the Y1 raids... Just gotta find the time... to sleep, and then... the time to play.

I think Cruel Legacy is the guy to ask for advice here :-p

Dude did flawless raider with a baby.

He two manned flawless with a baby!? damn! How did they even communicate!?

and you get great moments like this:

https://clips.twitch.tv/ThirstyTenderNostrilChefFrank

Haha yeah, I guess there's a weird partial state of blindness where you're getting trolled by your sherpas because that definitely happened to me.

Definitely. I don't think this clip represents that, though. I think everyone was blind.

Haha yeah, I guess there's a weird partial state of blindness where you're getting trolled by your sherpas because that definitely happened to me.

Sorry; every now and then there's something like that that catches on among sherpas. More recently it was "everyone punch the boxes at the same" to activate the elevator to the the final encounter space in the Spire of Stars raid.

3, 2, 1, <guardian down>

It's funny when it's not you, plus you get to help sell it to the next guy.

I'd have to find myself in an extremely rare mood to not find it hilarious. Though on Spire Of The Stars I could tell something was up. In Kings Fall the prankers just have to fall back slightly and let the mark go first...

Haha yeah, I guess there's a weird partial state of blindness where you're getting trolled by your sherpas because that definitely happened to me.

Sorry; every now and then there's something like that that catches on among sherpas. More recently it was "everyone punch the boxes at the same" to activate the elevator to the the final encounter space in the Spire of Stars raid.

3, 2, 1, <guardian down>

It's funny when it's not you, plus you get to help sell it to the next guy.