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<title>And the sky is blue. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we destined to have this conversation endlessly?  Of course it’s subjective.  Pointing that out is asinine.  </p>
<p>I haven’t participated in the season since week two.  That’s the other problem with the seasonal mode of content.  Is there good stuff?  I surely don’t know because I quit playing because they thought making me grind out idiotic bounties and one mediocre activity would keep me occupied for more than like two hours.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 00:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Worth is subjective. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And being reductive that it's &quot;some obelisks with bounties&quot; only presents it as if you didn't actually participate in the Season or what is on offer.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>On being overwhelmed (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a failure at providing worthwhile content.  I’m sure it’s making Bungie boatloads of money.  That’s not how I measure success, even if they do.  </p>
<p>Last season was masked by accompanying a pretty good, content-rich expansion.  This season doesn’t have that luxury, Andy it shows just how thin it is.  </p>
<p>Again, more power to the folks that like it.  I’ll jump back in when they put out something worthwhile.  Some bounties wrapped around the Obelisks ain’t that, though.  Hopefully we get a good expansion again this fall.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>On being overwhelmed (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think the seasonal content model is a failure.  I literally don’t think the two seasons we’ve seen this year are worth the development resources to create them.  It’s artificial engagement through chores to level up . . .</p>
</blockquote><p>Saying it is not for yourself, sure, that's fine. Suggesting it is a failure is questionable at best. The game is still lively and active. Engaging with the current content is easy and quick. People are running around with Sundial and Dawning stuff on.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Yeah but money (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realised they tricked me into buying a cosmetic microtransaction in the form of season-specific armor. Shit.</p>
<p>Also can you farm godroll weapons from the Obelisks without paying for the season pass? Is this P2W? Uh oh.</p>
<p>That said, I finally hit 92 and get to play the game I like. Ive been mopping up adventures (they're pretty cool!) and World Quests (they unlock exotics?! Neat!). I even got to play some Sundial (the real reason I bought the pass) and got an awesome roll on Traveler's Judgement 5 (Rapid hit/TtT).</p>
<p>This game is weird.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 21:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 21:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Would Korny lie to you? (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 21:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Is That In One GAME?! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>If it is, that's a <em>special </em>kind of stupid, even by Bungie's standards. As it is, a heavy brick only gets you what, one rocket now, maybe two. </p>
<p>Not gonna lie, I'm really starting to hate Bungie's quests. I get that they want to show us everything, but stuff like this isn't the way to do it.</p>
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Yup. All in one single match. And you lose progress if you die.</p>
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Wait, for real?  </p>
</blockquote><p>Would I give blatantly false information to anyone for my own amusement?</p>
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I just assumed people were blowing this way out of proportion.  If that’s true, that’s really dumb.  All the steps last season were cumulative.</p>
</blockquote><p>Regardless of whether or not ten rocket kills is a lot to ask, the problem is that if you want to get past a restrictive wall that keeps you from getting armor as drops (which, given how all of the IB weapons are just recycled drops, armor is the only thing worth chasing), you have no choice but to endure the grind. There are zero workarounds (and the game will <strong>only</strong> start tracking your rocket kills when you get to that step).</p>
<p>And as a guy who rarely touches Heavy, having to change my playstyle to include &quot;camp around Heavy Spawn and hope we win it, then hope I get a kill, then repeat the process successfully <em>at least</em> nine more times&quot;, on top of having to equip a Rocket Launcher (which I suck with), just to eventually progress a single half step of the quest?</p>
<p>It's poop.</p>
<p>And if you want to run a second character in IB? RIP</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 20:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Is That In One GAME?! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>If it is, that's a <em>special </em>kind of stupid, even by Bungie's standards. As it is, a heavy brick only gets you what, one rocket now, maybe two. </p>
<p>Not gonna lie, I'm really starting to hate Bungie's quests. I get that they want to show us everything, but stuff like this isn't the way to do it.</p>
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Yup. All in one single match. And you lose progress if you die.</p>
</blockquote><p>Wait, for real?  </p>
<p>I just assumed people were blowing this way out of proportion.  If that’s true, that’s really dumb.  All the steps last season were cumulative.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 19:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Is That In One GAME?! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If it is, that's a <em>special </em>kind of stupid, even by Bungie's standards. As it is, a heavy brick only gets you what, one rocket now, maybe two. </p>
<p>Not gonna lie, I'm really starting to hate Bungie's quests. I get that they want to show us everything, but stuff like this isn't the way to do it.</p>
</blockquote><p>Yup. All in one single match. And you lose progress if you die.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 19:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Is That In One GAME?! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is, that's a <em>special </em>kind of stupid, even by Bungie's standards. As it is, a heavy brick only gets you what, one rocket now, maybe two. </p>
<p>Not gonna lie, I'm really starting to hate Bungie's quests. I get that they want to show us everything, but stuff like this isn't the way to do it.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 19:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>On being overwhelmed (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t take that as me hating the game.  I love the game. When it’s interesting.  </p>
<p>I think the seasonal content model is a failure.  I literally don’t think the two seasons we’ve seen this year are worth the development resources to create them.  It’s artificial engagement through chores to level up.  That’s it.  And it bums me out.   As okay as I am putting Destiny down (there are other games! Who knew?), it bums me out that I’ve fired up Destiny multiple times this season looking for anything compelling, only to be greeted with “Kill 25 Captains and get 75 Precision Final Blows with a Sniper Rifle.”   No thanks.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 17:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>On being overwhelmed (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure I could forego doing all that (which I have, in the form of not playing at all), but if I played how I wanted, I would not make it through the seasonal ranks.  I know it’s true, because it’s what happened last season.  </p>
<p>I’m just not a big fan of being handed a list of chores for my $10, which is what the seasons have been so far this year.  The addition of the season rank rewards makes that even more true, because now the pressure is there to get it all done before it goes away (or choke up even more money at the end of the season).</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 13:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>On being overwhelmed (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the thing about this perspective that always razzes my berries is that what you present is a request that how <em>you personally</em> would like to invest your time in game should be <em>the most efficient way</em> to gain experience for a seasonal loot track that is available for about 12 weeks. Some folks ran through it in under a week. Some took two or three. </p>
<p>You might feel railroaded to complete this secondary activity in a specific way. It is definitely appropriate to say that you are being guided to certain methods. But Bungie directing you to the Matchmade Ritual Activities and the current Seasonal Event are hardly nefarious. Even having you visit the Tower periodically is far from some devaluation of your time by some game devs. </p>
<p>Forgoing XP to not &quot;annoy your friends&quot; is a conscious decision you are making just as much as not playing with friends to focus on grinding XP would be. Making a choice to play with weapons you regularly wouldn't to get Bounty XP is also choosing how you want to play.</p>
<p>I forego a lot of bounties and play what I feel like playing, to include &quot;low efficiency&quot; activities. With 73 days left in the season I have 11 more ranks to get to hit 100. Personally I think these issues are mole hills, and nothing more. Any magnification of that is chosen perspective.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 11:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Harmanimus</dc:creator>
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<title>On being overwhelmed (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I suppose there are a few caveats. I do enjoy the ritual activities. When I’m in patrol I like to hit up Patrol Beacons and hit most Public events I cross. A handful of Crucible matches means 5+ cookies. Insofar as time? Caveat is I’m on PC with Destiny on an M.2 drive. </p>
<p>And it isn’t like I can’t do other bounties while getting the Essence collected. I’ve gone from 82 to 85 just in the small handful of IB games I was able to play so far today. YMMV, of course. But I think it’s pretty easy to mix in with anything else I want to do.</p>
</blockquote><p>It's not difficult, it's just a pain in the ass.</p>
<p>You have to stop every four minutes to switch weapon types to focus on whatever weapons you have bounties for.  Then you have to run back to the Tower every twenty minutes to load up on more bounties (or move on to another activity that still has active bounties).</p>
<p>They doubled-down on making it feel lie you're wasting your playtime if you don't focus on very specific activities to work on that season level.  </p>
<p>Bounties should absolutely not be the main source of XP for seasonal ranks.  It's really silly.  XP should just come from doing stuff.  It's sort of ridiculous that you can do a Nightfall and get basically nothing, whereas the twenty minutes that activity takes could have been far better spent doing Destination Bounties or something.  They just actively encouraging the worst way to play the game.</p>
<p>For a game that wants you to play with friends, they sure sure go out of their way to cause as much annoyance as possible.  You either have to forego that valuable XP, or you have to annoy your party by making Tower runs every time you finish an activity.  </p>
<p>For a game that they say they want you to play however you want, they sure do insist on railroading you onto a pretty direct path for progression, if you want to make progress in a reasonable time.</p>
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<title>Weapon Kill Bounties (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my biggest issue is that they’ve shown that they don’t have to tie it to Final Blows for these. My biggest problem in the logic is that IB is inherently a team activity. Similar to Strike Bounties or what not. I would happily accept higher point requirements if they didn’t make the goals internally antagonistic. I remember in some prior season a require For kills across 5-6 archetypes, but your team’s final blows contributed. I completed the sniper kills without touching a Sniper. Obviously it took longer, but it supported team play. </p>
<p>As it stands all the “Get X Kills” parts of the quest steps (and that they only count while on the step) are at least double what is reasonable. Make it take more captures or plain old Defeats, but only force me through 3 Rocket Kills if you want me netting Final Blows.</p>
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<title>On being overwhelmed (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose there are a few caveats. I do enjoy the ritual activities. When I’m in patrol I like to hit up Patrol Beacons and hit most Public events I cross. A handful of Crucible matches means 5+ cookies. Insofar as time? Caveat is I’m on PC with Destiny on an M.2 drive. </p>
<p>And it isn’t like I can’t do other bounties while getting the Essence collected. I’ve gone from 82 to 85 just in the small handful of IB games I was able to play so far today. YMMV, of course. But I think it’s pretty easy to mix in with anything else I want to do.</p>
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<title>On being overwhelmed (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've done a but of the Dawning Bounty grind, but its dull as hell. I had to have Netflix on while i did it so I didnt go insane. Which strikes me as defeating the purpose somewhat. I'm not even sure it's faster as such than doing other Bounties (those load times!!!).</p>
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<title>yes, yes, very good (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's not a new conplaint, but its certainly a more pronounced complaint this season</p>
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<title>The Dawning Essence grind tho... (reply)</title>
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