Also, not much of an MMO guy. I like the idea of an MMO, but the execution so far leaves a lot to be desired.

This, for me as well. I'm never sure of the commitment I can make to a game long-term; online MP and closed-campaign RPGs (i.e. Skyrim, DragonAge) work well for me because I can drop in and out as my free time waxes and wanes.

I love Elder Scrolls, but I've been turned off by ESO since it's announcement and I've never felt quite right about it. Am I just being close-minded? My impression of MMOs has always been if you can't pour time into it, you fall behind very quickly.

I have these worries about Destiny too, but I want to believe that Bungie is going to deliver the "friends on the couch" MP experience they always hoped online MP would be. I trust they will deliver a grand adventure and they understand what went right and wrong with the "first generation" of console online play....

I've gone from a Destiny seller to buyer in the last few months. I guess I just miss playing Bungie games. With ES though, I can wait for Bethesda to publish their next "closed" RPGs (ESO 6?, Fallout 4?) so I'm less likely to give ESO a shot.

Skyrim with its openness is either #1 or #2 for my top game of the 360. It does leave me wondering a bit where Destiny will place and how it might play in comparison...

Also, not much of an MMO guy. I like the idea of an MMO, but the execution so far leaves a lot to be desired.

We've beaten this horse to death, so I'll keep it simple, but now seems like a good time to say that I think the lack of subscription fees is one of the best decisions Bungie and Activision have made about Destiny.